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Nephilim, in short, are considered to be the offspring of angels and humans, according to a couple of Old Testament Biblical references, and the book of Enoch.


The links below compare 5 of the most common translations' texts. (NIV, NASB, NKJV, Message, Amplified)

Nephilim and giants are referred to in both Numbers 13 and Genesis 6:4


Regarding the nephilim, and the book of enoch... I did a little bit of googling to find out some more details and various perspectives... mostly these are protestant sources, but discuss various interpretations

regarding 'nephilim' (a little background)

(src - section #1, from para.4)

Some have claimed that the nephilim, or the ‘sons of God,’ both mentioned in Genesis 6:2–4, were aliens. This is a wild extension of a common view that the ‘sons of God’ who married the ‘daughters of men’ were fallen angels, and that the nephilim were products of those ‘marriages.’

‘Sons of God’ is clearly used of angels in Job 38:7. The Septuagint (LXX) here translates ‘sons of God’ as ‘angels of God.’ This need not mean that evil angels, or demons, actually cohabited with women. Nevertheless, evil angels on earth could have used the bodies of ungodly men, by demonic possession, to achieve their evil purpose of producing an evil generation of people (Gen. 6:12).

There are other reasonable suggestions as to the identity of the ‘sons of God’ and the nephilim. Interestingly, the word nephilim is only used here and in Numbers 13:33, where it refers to the descendants of Anak, who were big people, but still people. Furthermore, although ‘sons of God’ is used exclusively of angels (in the Old Testament)—the children of Israel are called ‘the sons of the living God’ in Hosea 1:10.

re: definition

(src - search for instance of 'nephilim')

words such as Nephilim...the meaning is unclear. The KJV has ‘giants’ because of the influence of the Vulgate gigantes, in turn influenced by the Septuagint γιγαντες (also gigantes). But the word seems related to naphal, ‘to fall’.

re: Genesis 6 1:4

Did angels marry humans?

re: Enoch

What is the book of Enoch?

the Book of 1 Enoch looks to be a good source for information about angels, but it's not Biblical, or Christian, canon for various reasons. As for the nephilim, who/what they are seems to still be a mystery, per se, but general consensus seems to be that they aren't angels in the way that angels and humans inter-bred. Nephilim are either another word for evil men given the context and culture, or they may be fallen angels (demons) who possessed the men referred to be in the Anak region in scripture, who then lay with women.

So in the case of OE, I'd favour the latter definition of Nephilim - they they are fallen angels, or demons, who possessed humans and bred, since humans and angels inherently cannot mate...

...at least as far as real world references go. Obviously as a fictional story, they can base it off whatever they want :)

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